Tooling & Production August 2005

"Shop Talk with Steve Rose"

The Author, Steve Rose

Using Extended Chuck Jaws

Recently we discussed the safe use of chuck jaws in this column.  We reviewed the forces involved in using hard and soft jaws and tips for safe operations.  Another type of jaw common in job shops is the extended jaws, which allow you to hold longer parts in the machine.  

Back in my job-shop days I would purchase extended chuck jaws when they were needed for a specific operation.  When placing the order for the jaws, the sales staff never said, “Be careful!  These chuck jaws can be dangerous.”  I guess they thought we know what we were doing!

As foolish as it seems now, safety was not always a main concern.  There were times when we would use a 12-inch chuck to make parts that should have been made with a 15-inch chuck.

The 12-inch counter centrifugal chuck was rated for 4000 RPM and the part extended out a long way from the face.  The 4000 RPM rating was for standard jaws; with extended jaws we had to drastically limit the G50 maximum RPM setting.

The RPM rating is just one concern when using extended jaws.  You must also be aware of the weight of the jaws themselves.  The weight and the mounting distance from the spindle centerline are part of the WR (weight/radius) factor.  The greater the distance from the centerline the greater is the gravitational pull caused by the spindle rotation.

Remember the early days of the space race when scientists used a centrifuge to measure gravitational stresses?  Astronauts were spun in a large centrifuge machine where scientists measured the high stresses inflicted on the human body by large gravitation forces.

Well the lathe chuck is our very own centrifuge; although it is tough to measure the centrifugal force.   There is a special gauge that can be purchased with a rotary coupling that allows the chucking force to be measured as the chuck is spinning.  The chuck force will be reduced when a part is placed into the chuck due to the weight of the part.

 

 

 

These forces can be great, so we must apply strict safety considerations when using extended chuck jaws. The first step is to use a G50 / G92 preset command so the machine cannot reach a dangerous speed. The definition of dangerous depends on your point of view. Remember, not only are we using extended jaws, we also have a facing tool that is effectively trying to push the part out of the chuck. Any time we face to the center of the part in the G96 constant surface speed mode your machine hits the G50 / G92 maximum preset.

Another safety step is to cut away some of the jaw to reduce the weight.  Take a look at the jaws before mounting them to the chuck.  It may be possible to cut the outside corners, reducing the weight but not affecting the grip of the part.

Lastly, if we are going to bore these jaws to suit a specific part diameter, we should bore a back taper (larger in the back) in the jaws to ensure that we are gripping the part with the front of the jaws. The work holding arrangement deflects due to the clearance / slop in the chuck itself.  A 0.001 clearance at the chuck face will magnify into a larger clearance at the front of the jaws.

Use your judgment to determine how much taper is required. A simple test is to set a piece of paper at the front of the jaws and close the chuck to grip the part. If the paper comes loose there is not have enough back taper.

Following these basic safety tips we should be ready to use our extended chuck jaws.  Be sure to keep your door closed and your procedures safe, if not the part will be chasing you down the shop.